it's been about 10 years since i posted here.
a lot's happened of course.
but here's where i'm at right now.. i was never (to my knowledge) disfellowshipped.
I would not 'poke the bear' so to speak. To formally disassociate yourself is to give them recognition that their power has influence over you. If you successfully faded, keep it that way, you aren't being counted as a JW in their stats.
If you believe your mother is a threat, then just be careful, it's unlikely at this point the JW will go hog-wild on the Armageddon stuff, the majority of the organization has tuned out to that.
thousands of migrants have come to england this year, already beating last year's total.. some may have fled syria and other war-torn countries; others are economic migrants.. let me try to get my head around this phenomenon: migrants are relatively safe in france and other countries.
they then leave the relative safety of continental europe and risk their lives and that of their children by crossing the english channel in rubber dinghies.
there's just no fixing stupid, is there .
@Simon: Or the US for that matter. Although in order to qualify for the benefits, as in the UK, you have to remain relatively (to the rest of the country) poor. That's when the disillusionment sets in and you have generations being raised in a systemic poverty.
thousands of migrants have come to england this year, already beating last year's total.. some may have fled syria and other war-torn countries; others are economic migrants.. let me try to get my head around this phenomenon: migrants are relatively safe in france and other countries.
they then leave the relative safety of continental europe and risk their lives and that of their children by crossing the english channel in rubber dinghies.
there's just no fixing stupid, is there .
Question: if Brexit was so bad for everyone, why is everyone still going to the UK when they are already in the EU and have a pick from Spain to Norway and Poland to France. Same for the US, if it’s a bad, racist country where police shoot colored people on sight, why do they go there and don’t just stay in Mexico or Brazil which aren’t countries in abject poverty.
The answer is simple: every other country is an even more oppressive shithole. Go to Mexico or France or Germany or Canada and see how migrants are treated there. They lock them up in lead infested buildings and/or put them in tent cities as their oh so wonderful social systems can’t handle the load, while wagging the finger at everyone else that does the same thing and berating them for not having these progressive social systems.
Economic migrants are looking for utopia, a promised land that doesn’t exist, where you don’t have to work and get free money and healthcare. They believe the false promises of progressives that this exists in the EU or the US under Democrat presidents, until they get there and realize those systems, same as their home countries, aren’t feasible, don’t really exist in the way they are presented and always result in a worse outcome.
this is a confidential letter for all full time servants like cos, regular pioneers, bethel and branch workers so please don't tell anyone about this.. reminder 20,000 jws have died of covid and 99% of those who died or were hospitalized in the united states branch territory were not vaccinated, so whose fault is that???.
my question, how did they get the information that all these 20,000 jws were not vaccinated?.
hint; if you want to continue to share in spiritual privileges--------------------get vaccinated.
As with above comments, do they recommend certain specific vaccines as some vaccines and treatments are based around blood-based products (Plasma therapy and hyperimmune globulins) and some (AstraZeneca, SinoVac and J&J) vaccines are based around human or fetal stem cells (they are purified after growth culture).
In the past they would’ve researched all this and given us reams of paper on all the vaccines and treatments in the world and which would and would not be acceptable.
in one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.
in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.
i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.
@Me.Wonderful: life isn’t quite that simple dear. People don’t pose a threat because they want to move and work, nobody is saying that. If you get your talking points from CNN, then you believe the wrong thing about libertarians like me and right-wingers in general. Please do some research before spouting such non-sense.
All of us believe our own doctors, none of us are refusing blood transfusion based on Bible verses. There are questions to be raised, the fact that questions aren’t allowed on some topics as you seem to suggest, we should just accept what the Watchtower CDC (which is a political organization, not a scientific one) tells us, hits a raw nerve with many of us.
We should be allowed to do our own risk assessments, we should be allowed to make decisions on our own health, we should be allowed to see the data.
i know several wit-lesses that to date are researching these topics.. however i haven't heard much from any publications recently about it, i think the latest refresh was ~10 years ago.
since then the power of the us has severely diminished (or at least the rhetorics about it has), russia is a small potato in modern era, the eu is a cowardly dog in the eyes of everyone and we have the rise of china which is as far as military might is concerned, a paper tiger.. we also have the rise of islam, especially since the end of the nato nation-building effort in afghanistan which is now in power in most of the middle east and africa, as well as regions of asia and growing strong in europe.. does anyone have noooo light about these developments.
is islam the king of the south?
The problem with Russia is that they are about as powerful as Iran, after the USSR collapsed they lost most of the geographical benefits and most of their power as half their stuff was abandoned in new countries.
China can rattle the cage but will get a run for its money in a war from a coalition between India, South Korea, Taiwan and Japan.
I think the watchtower simply no longer has a clue about international issues and chooses to ignore these once-important (to them) topics.
it's nice to meet you all.
i have been awake since i was a child and i am thinking about leaving jehovahs witnesses soon.
i am looking for some new friends because i know i will lose the ones i have.. my question is, how did your spouse react when you left?
There are lots of topics here on the matter of spouses. It seems that if your husband loves you and he’s not super-controlling or putting much effort being high up in the organization, you have a better chance, especially as a woman, to leave together.
I would slowly poke and see what he believes if he is not already outspoken about it. You can sow some doubts slowly and try to leave together. There is a chance you may lose him too, in that case you probably end up in a divorce proceeding, very rarely do JWs accept such changes, as a woman, you are in luck as custody and decision making generally tends to go in favor of females. That doesn’t mean he won’t be able to take the kids to meetings, but for most matters, you will be in charge.
It’s not an easy road. You may lose everything, but it is worth it.
i know several wit-lesses that to date are researching these topics.. however i haven't heard much from any publications recently about it, i think the latest refresh was ~10 years ago.
since then the power of the us has severely diminished (or at least the rhetorics about it has), russia is a small potato in modern era, the eu is a cowardly dog in the eyes of everyone and we have the rise of china which is as far as military might is concerned, a paper tiger.. we also have the rise of islam, especially since the end of the nato nation-building effort in afghanistan which is now in power in most of the middle east and africa, as well as regions of asia and growing strong in europe.. does anyone have noooo light about these developments.
is islam the king of the south?
I know several Wit-lesses that to date are researching these topics.
However I haven't heard much from any publications recently about it, I think the latest refresh was ~10 years ago. Since then the power of the US has severely diminished (or at least the rhetorics about it has), Russia is a small potato in modern era, the EU is a cowardly dog in the eyes of everyone and we have the rise of China which is as far as military might is concerned, a paper tiger.
We also have the rise of Islam, especially since the end of the NATO nation-building effort in Afghanistan which is now in power in most of the Middle East and Africa, as well as regions of Asia and growing strong in Europe.
Does anyone have noooo light about these developments. Is Islam the King of the South? Is China the King of the North? What does Daniel have to say about any of this?
i'd appreciate getting some opinions about a decision i will shortly have to make.. i am moving soon and have the choice of two different apartments in two different towns.
i am hoping this move will be one of the last that i have to make - i have moved frequently in my life - at least for a long, long while.. the apartment i like the least is in a town and a location that i love due to my history with, and connection to the area.
the apartment i love is in a town and location i am not as crazy about, but it is still a really nice area.
Personally, I'd be choosing the place I love, because that's where you'll be spending most of your time. Areas change and we often have rose colored glasses when it comes to history. Just because it was great when you grew up, doesn't mean it was actually great, nor that it remained great.
I'd be looking at more objective measures such as commute, crime rates and school quality over nostalgia. I personally stay as much away from the inner cities as possible.
the following is an urgent email message (except i deleted mention of my name and links which might include information about me,) i received from american atheists regarding the need to get the covid-19 vaccine.. ".
for months, we've thought that vaccine rates have been incredibly strong among our community..
for example, a pew poll in march found that 90% of atheist respondents indicated they'd already received the first vaccine dose or would "definitely" or "probably" seek the shot..
According to a May 11 survey, a larger percentage of young Catholics and evangelicals have gotten vaccinated than young nonreligious Americans:
This kind of undercuts the notion that only rabid right wing religious nut jobs are to blame. Perhaps it has more to do with the insane messaging from the governments that want to maintain control by unscientific lockdowns and mask mandates.
As long as COVID is around, there is a crisis, and that allows you to implement martial law, it allows you to ignore Supreme Court decisions, allows you to suppress all protest, it gives some obscure, unknown and unelected bureaucrats like Fauci space on Time magazine front pages and power to implement unconstitutional immigration law, unconstitutional takings from landlords, unconstitutional takings from tax payers. And this is happening across the world, the EU is very unhappy that the UK is opening up, Australia is locking down with zero evidence, and DeBlasio wants to resegregate the city by race.
If there were a message that if the vaccines are successful, the crisis is overcome, there would be no more appetite to oppression.
